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    A succession of experiences is not the same as an experience of succession.

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    • 1.Tones D and E are heard in order — D is heard first, then E — constituting a succession of experiences.
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    • 2.However, because D and E are not diachronically co-conscious, there is no single experiential state in which the transition from D to E is presented.
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    • 3.Being experienced as a succession requires the successive contents to be jointly present within a single diachronically co-conscious episode.
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    • 1.Hume's bundle theory holds that the self is nothing but a bundle of successive perceptions with no additional unifying subject.
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    • 2.If Hume is correct, then a succession of experiences just is what experience of succession consists in, with no further diachronic co-consciousness required.
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    • 3.The supporting argument's demand for a single co-conscious episode smuggles in a Kantian unified subject that bundle theorists explicitly reject.
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    • 1.William James's stream of consciousness doctrine holds that each momentary experience already contains 'fringe' retentional and protentional content of adjacent moments.
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    • 2.If temporal relations are intrinsically encoded within each discrete experience as James argues, then a well-structured succession of experiences itself constitutes an experience of succession.
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    • 3.The claim therefore presents a false dichotomy by assuming succession and experience-of-succession require categorically distinct metaphysical structures.
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    PT-realists are agreed that change and succession feature in our immediate experience. To be viable on the phenomenological level, a realist account of how this is possible must not just capture some of the change that it is plausible to suppose we directly experience, it must capture all of it. Let us suppose that C-D-E-F in Figure 7 are brief tones that are heard in succession. Given that this sequence is a typical one – with no sudden or massive disruptions in the listener’s consciousness ove
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