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    A timeless being cannot stand in asymmetric before/after ... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→God is timeless.

    A timeless being cannot stand in asymmetric before/after relations required for genuine causal agency in time.

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    • 1.Causation requires a temporal gap: the cause must exist before the effect, establishing asymmetric temporal ordering.
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    • 2.A timeless being exists in no temporal sequence, so cannot satisfy the before/after relation causation demands.
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    • 3.Without temporal priority, agency collapses into simultaneous determination, which differs fundamentally from causal action.
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    • 1.Causation may be fundamentally about counterfactual dependence, not temporal order—timeless beings could satisfy this.
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    • 2.A timeless cause could ground temporal effects through non-temporal relations (e.g., eternal creation grounds temporal change).
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    • 3.Requiring temporal asymmetry for causation begs the question against atemporal metaphysics rather than refuting it.
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