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    God is timeless. — Carmelics
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    God is timeless.

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    • 1.Perfection requires divine simplicity.
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    • 2.Simplicity requires timelessness.
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    • 1.Divine action in history (creation, revelation, incarnation) entails temporal relations between God and world.
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    • 2.A timeless being cannot stand in asymmetric before/after relations required for genuine causal agency in time.
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    • 3.Therefore, a God who acts in history cannot be strictly timeless.
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    • 1.Boethius's 'eternal present' collapses into incoherence: if God timelessly knows future free acts, those acts are necessitated, violating libertarian freedom.
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    • 2.Divine simplicity, as Alvin Plantinga argues, entails that God's knowledge IS God, making contingent knowledge of contingent facts metaphysically impossible for a simple being.
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    Perfection requires divine simplicity.Simplicity requires timelessness.Therefore, a God who acts in history cannot be strictly timeless.

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    Simplicity requires timelessness.91%God has a timeless mode of existence.87%God is eternal.85%A timeless being doesn't change.85%

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    “Measured Time” is “the specifically human time of our history and our universe: the time of seconds, days, and centuries; the time of our space-time” (Padgett 1992: 130). In that sense of “time”, God is timeless. However, God is not timeless in the strict sense in which “time” refers to any kind of temporality, because God is in his own time. Does that mean God is only in his time and not in ours? No, he is in our time too (p. 131—at least saying this is “philosophically acceptable” (p. 126)), as we are in his. It’s just that he transcends our time. What does it mean to transcend our time? It...

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