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    A transition from metaphysical dependence to conscious un... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→If we are to come to God as voluntary agents, we can only approach him from a position of sinfulness.

    A transition from metaphysical dependence to conscious union with God is a coherent alternative starting point that is neither sinful nor morally neutral.

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    • 1.Metaphysical dependence on God is an ontological fact, not a moral condition, so transition pathways need not begin with sin-acknowledgment.
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    • 2.Mystical union traditions across religions show conscious communion with transcendence can be pursued as genuine spiritual development, not remediation.
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    • 3.Moral neutrality of starting points doesn't entail moral neutrality of the path—the transition itself can become ethically meaningful through commitment.
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    • 1.If humans are genuinely separated from God by sin, then omitting this recognition in one's starting point misrepresents spiritual reality, however coherent conceptually.
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    • 2.Claiming a transition is 'neither sinful nor morally neutral' is incoherent—it must be either morally significant or not; the middle ground obscures rather than clarifies.
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    • 3.Mystical union traditions typically presuppose prior moral purification; treating union as a coherent starting point bypasses transformative preconditions those traditions require.
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