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    A veridical perception requires not merely a causal conne... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→In the auditory case, the premise that you can hear a sound without an environmental cause present is true, because hearing a sound produced by loudspeakers is not a hallucination.

    A veridical perception requires not merely a causal connection but the right kind of causal connection between percept and object.

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    • 1.Barn façade cases show causation alone fails: you see a barn-shaped object caused by the real barn, yet lack genuine barn perception.
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    • 2.The causal chain's structure matters: deviant causal paths (like a demon manipulating neurons) preserve causation but undermine knowledge.
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    • 3.Normal perceptual mechanisms constitute 'the right kind'—evolutionarily reliable systems that track environmental features systematically.
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    • 1.No principled criterion defines 'the right kind' of causation without circularity: we identify it by checking if perception succeeds.
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    • 2.Veridical perception in non-human animals (echolocation, magnetoreception) uses radically different causal mechanisms—suggesting mechanism-independence.
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    • 3.If direct causal contact suffices for simple organisms' genuine perception, the 'right kind' requirement may be unnecessary epicycles.
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    Barn façade cases show causation alone fails: you see a barn-shaped object cause...If direct causal contact suffices for simple organisms' genuine perception, the ...In the auditory case, the premise that you can hear a sound without an environme...No principled criterion defines 'the right kind' of causation without circularit...
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    Normal perceptual mechanisms constitute 'the right kind'—evolutionarily reliable...The causal chain's structure matters: deviant causal paths (like a demon manipul...Veridical perception in non-human animals (echolocation, magnetoreception) uses ...

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