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    In the auditory case, the premise that you can hear a sound without an environmental cause present is true, because hearing a sound produced by loudspeakers is not a hallucination.

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    • 1.When hearing a sound in S2, you do not hallucinate the sound of a collision, since you can hear a sound without there being a collision (as when listening to music played by loudspeakers).
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    • 2.There is still something that bears the auditory qualities you hear in S2, which can be produced by loudspeakers.
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    • 3.Hearing a sound produced by loudspeakers is clearly not a hallucination.
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    • 1.A veridical perception requires not merely a causal connection but the right kind of causal connection between percept and object.
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    • 2.Loudspeaker reproduction introduces a causal deviance: the heard 'sound' is causally connected to an encoded signal, not the original sound event.
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    • 3.If deviant causal chains undermine veridical perception in vision (Grice, Goldman), they equally undermine the claim that loudspeaker hearing is non-illusory.
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    • 1.Sounds, on the Aristotelian-Pasnau account, are essentially relational events constituted by the interaction of a body and a medium at a particular location and time.
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    • 2.Loudspeakers produce numerically distinct sound events from the original source event, so the hearer perceives a different sound, not the original one.
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    • 3.If what is heard is a numerically distinct surrogate event, the argument from loudspeakers fails to establish that one hears without an environmental cause—there is always a present cause, just not the intended one.
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    Premise
    A premise is a statement or fact that you assume to be true as a starting point for reasoning or making an argument. Think of it as the foundation or building block you use to reach a conclusion—for example, "All dogs are animals" and "My pet is a dog" are premises that lead to the conclusion "My pet is an animal." Premises are essentially the evidence or claims you offer before drawing a final conclusion.
    environmental cause(in causation and perception)
    Something in the world around you that directly makes something happen—like sound waves from a live musician traveling through the air to your ear.
    hallucination(philosophy of perception)
    An experience that phenomenologically seems to be a direct presentation of an ordinary object but is subjectively indistinguishable from a veridical experience of such an object.

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    (1) The premise is false since you cannot see a red cube without that there is something, a real thing, that is the bearer of the visual features that usually a red cube has. When it seems to you that you are seeing a red cube without that there actually is a red cube, it is because you are hallucinating it: there is nothing that instantiates the visual features of a real red cube. Can we apply the same reasoning to audition in order to claim that the premise is false concerning auditory appeara
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    Sounds, on the Aristotelian-Pasnau account, are essentially relational events co...
    There is still something that bears the auditory qualities you hear in S2, which...
    When hearing a sound in S2, you do not hallucinate the sound of a collision, sin...
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