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    Abstract, ahistorical, and universal rights are doubly mi... — Carmelics
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    Abstract, ahistorical, and universal rights are doubly mistaken as a basis for government.

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    • 1.Rights claims require shared social practices and institutions to be intelligible, as MacIntyre argues in 'After Virtue': rights without community are fictions.
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    • 2.Universal rights declarations historically produce conflict when imposed on societies with incompatible moral traditions, as Burke observed in the French Revolution.
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    • 3.A government grounded in evolved constitutional tradition better secures liberty than one reconstructed from abstract first principles.
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    • 1.Hegel's Philosophy of Right demonstrates that genuine freedom is actualized only through historically developed ethical institutions, not pre-social abstractions.
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    • 2.Abstract rights divorced from historical context cannot adjudicate conflicts between competing rights claims without importing hidden substantive values.
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    • 1.Government does not have the end of uncovering civil liberties.
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    • 2.The project of 'uncovering civil liberties' is particularly disruptive when pursued abstractly.
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    Conservatives reject the liberal’s concept of abstract, ahistorical and universal rights, derived from the nature of human agency and autonomy, and possessed even when unrecognised, for instance by slaves in Ancient Greece (on abstract rights, see for instance Gewirth 1983). For conservatives, a priori claims such as L.T. Hobhouse’s “The proper end of government is the uncovering of civil liberties”, are doubly mistaken (Hobhouse 1964 [1911]: 19); government does not have such ends, and “uncover
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