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    It is not the case that Accepting the results of Nicene controversy does not require accepting its generative assumptions, since councils often reached sound conclusions via flawed metaphysical premises.

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    • 1.Metaphysical premises about divine nature aren't external scaffolding—they constitute what Nicene conclusions *mean*, making premise divorce incoherent.
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    • 2.Claiming councils reached sound conclusions while operating under flawed metaphysics assumes we possess independent criteria to validate outcomes—which we don't possess.
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    • 3.If assumptions were genuinely flawed, the causal pathway to correct conclusions becomes mysterious, suggesting either assumptions were sounder or conclusions less determinate than claimed.
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    • 1.Mathematical truths remain valid even when derived from false axioms, suggesting metaphysical scaffolding can be discarded after conclusions are reached.
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    • 2.Councils prioritized pastoral coherence over metaphysical rigor, making outcomes pragmatically sound despite theoretical weaknesses.
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    • 3.Subsequent theological refinements (e.g., scholasticism) successfully reformulated Nicene conclusions without those original metaphysical assumptions.
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