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    Accepting the results of Nicene controversy does not requ... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→A doctrine of processions must be retained in trinitarian theology.

    Accepting the results of Nicene controversy does not require accepting its generative assumptions, since councils often reached sound conclusions via flawed metaphysical premises.

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    • 1.Mathematical truths remain valid even when derived from false axioms, suggesting metaphysical scaffolding can be discarded after conclusions are reached.
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    • 2.Councils prioritized pastoral coherence over metaphysical rigor, making outcomes pragmatically sound despite theoretical weaknesses.
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    • 3.Subsequent theological refinements (e.g., scholasticism) successfully reformulated Nicene conclusions without those original metaphysical assumptions.
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    • 1.Metaphysical premises about divine nature aren't external scaffolding—they constitute what Nicene conclusions *mean*, making premise divorce incoherent.
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    • 2.Claiming councils reached sound conclusions while operating under flawed metaphysics assumes we possess independent criteria to validate outcomes—which we don't possess.
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    • 3.If assumptions were genuinely flawed, the causal pathway to correct conclusions becomes mysterious, suggesting either assumptions were sounder or conclusions less determinate than claimed.
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