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    Actions and activities can have only extrinsic value, not... — Carmelics
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    Actions and activities can have only extrinsic value, not intrinsic value.

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    • 1.Hedonism holds that pleasure is the only thing with intrinsic value.
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    • 2.Actions and activities are not mental states of pleasure.
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    • 3.Whatever is not intrinsically valuable can only have extrinsic value.
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    • 1.Mill himself distinguishes higher from lower pleasures by the quality of the activity producing them, implicitly grounding value in the nature of the activity itself.
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    • 2.If two pleasures of equal intensity differ in value due to the activity through which they are experienced, the activity contributes intrinsic evaluative weight beyond its causal role.
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    • 3.This internal tension in hedonism suggests the supporting argument's premise that actions are merely extrinsic value-bearers is false even on consequentialist grounds.
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    • 1.Aristotle's eudaimonia framework holds that virtuous activity (energeia) is itself the good, not merely a means to pleasurable states.
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    • 2.If excellent activity constitutes flourishing rather than producing it, then at least some actions possess intrinsic rather than merely instrumental value.
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    Hedonism implies that the mental state of pleasure is the only thing having intrinsic value (and the mental state of pain is the only intrinsic evil). All other things have only extrinsic value; they have value just insofar as they bring about, mediately or directly, intrinsic value (or disvalue). It follows that actions, activities, etc. can have only extrinsic value, and it would seem that their value should depend entirely upon the quantity of pleasure that they produce, where quantity is a f
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