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    It is not the case that Actions and activities can have only extrinsic value, not intrinsic value.

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    • 1.Mill himself distinguishes higher from lower pleasures by the quality of the activity producing them, implicitly grounding value in the nature of the activity itself.
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    • 2.If two pleasures of equal intensity differ in value due to the activity through which they are experienced, the activity contributes intrinsic evaluative weight beyond its causal role.
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    • 3.This internal tension in hedonism suggests the supporting argument's premise that actions are merely extrinsic value-bearers is false even on consequentialist grounds.
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    • 1.Aristotle's eudaimonia framework holds that virtuous activity (energeia) is itself the good, not merely a means to pleasurable states.
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    • 2.If excellent activity constitutes flourishing rather than producing it, then at least some actions possess intrinsic rather than merely instrumental value.
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    • 1.Hedonism holds that pleasure is the only thing with intrinsic value.
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    • 2.Actions and activities are not mental states of pleasure.
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    • 3.Whatever is not intrinsically valuable can only have extrinsic value.
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