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    It is not the case that Adherents of non-Christian religions can enter God's presence even without awareness of Jesus's redemptive acts.

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    • 1.The pre-Christian Jews' salvation was mediated through covenantal structures explicitly oriented toward the coming Messiah, making their case categorically distinct.
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    • 2.Analogical extension from a teleologically structured covenant to non-covenantal religious frameworks commits the fallacy of false analogy.
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    • 3.Without a structural parallel to the Messianic telos, the mechanism cited in P1 cannot transfer to adherents of non-Abrahamic or non-prophetic traditions.
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    • 1.Alvin Plantinga and other Reformed epistemologists argue that salvific knowledge requires properly functioning cognitive faculties oriented toward specifically Christian revelation.
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    • 2.If the epistemic conditions for salvific awareness are internal to a particular revelatory tradition, then ignorance of that tradition's content constitutes a genuine soteriological deficit, not a neutral condition.
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    • 3.God's salvific work, on exclusivist accounts from Barth to contemporary Reformed theology, is necessarily particular and resists abstraction from its Christological form.
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    • 1.Pre-Christian Jews were able to enter God's presence through Jesus's redemptive acts of which they were unaware.
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    • 2.The mechanism by which pre-Christian Jews were saved (unawareness of Jesus's acts) applies analogously to adherents of other religions.
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    • 3.God's salvific work is not limited by the recipient's explicit knowledge of its source.
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