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    Aesthetic properties are mind-dependent in some sense — Carmelics
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    Aesthetic properties are mind-dependent in some sense

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    • 1.Aesthetic properties depend on the appearances of things, such as how things look or sound
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    • 2.Appearances are appearances to some observer
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    • 1.Aesthetic properties like elegance or balance are structural features of objects that obtain independently of any observer's mental states.
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    • 2.The fact that perception is required to detect a property does not entail that the property itself is constituted by or dependent on perception.
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    • 3.We routinely distinguish between mind-independent properties and the mind-dependent means by which we access them, as in the case of shape or mathematical truth.
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    • 1.G.E. Moore's open-question argument generalizes: for any mental state M, it remains a coherent, non-trivial question whether something that produces M is genuinely beautiful.
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    • 2.If aesthetic properties were mind-dependent, the question 'this produces aesthetic pleasure, but is it truly beautiful?' would be analytically closed, yet it is not.
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    • 3.The persistent intelligibility of this question across philosophical traditions indicates that beauty tracks something beyond the relational facts about observers.
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    One view is that aesthetic properties depend on the appearances of things—the way things look or sound, for example (see Mitrović 2013, 2018). If so, there is a sense in which aesthetic properties are mind-dependent, since appearances are appearances to some observer. However, some say that there can be aesthetic properties of abstract objects such as mathematical or logical proofs or structures. And some say that ideas or concepts in conceptual art may be the bearers of aesthetic properties. (S
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