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    It is not the case that Aesthetic properties are mind-dependent in some sense

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    • 1.Aesthetic properties like elegance or balance are structural features of objects that obtain independently of any observer's mental states.
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    • 2.The fact that perception is required to detect a property does not entail that the property itself is constituted by or dependent on perception.
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    • 3.We routinely distinguish between mind-independent properties and the mind-dependent means by which we access them, as in the case of shape or mathematical truth.
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    • 1.G.E. Moore's open-question argument generalizes: for any mental state M, it remains a coherent, non-trivial question whether something that produces M is genuinely beautiful.
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    • 2.If aesthetic properties were mind-dependent, the question 'this produces aesthetic pleasure, but is it truly beautiful?' would be analytically closed, yet it is not.
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    • 3.The persistent intelligibility of this question across philosophical traditions indicates that beauty tracks something beyond the relational facts about observers.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.Aesthetic properties depend on the appearances of things, such as how things look or sound
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    • 2.Appearances are appearances to some observer
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