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    After death, no subject exists to bear the deprivation of... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→Death may be bad for those who die, even if they do not experience dying.

    After death, no subject exists to bear the deprivation of future goods.

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    • 1.Deprivation requires a subject who experiences or can conceive of their loss at some time.
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    • 2.Death ends all consciousness and subjective experience, eliminating any possible bearer of deprivation.
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    • 3.We cannot harm someone by events they never experience or are unaware of occurring.
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    • 1.Deprivation can be understood comparatively: a life cut short is worse than it could have been, independent of experience.
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    • 2.We recognize harms to the dead (desecration, betrayal of wishes) suggesting subjects can be affected post-death.
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    • 3.The subject existed when future goods were foreseeable; deprivation occurs to that earlier subject's reasonable expectations.
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