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    All language, and consequently all thought, is poetic — Carmelics
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    All language, and consequently all thought, is poetic

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    • 1.All language is fundamentally figurative or metaphorical in nature
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    • 2.What is fundamentally figurative or metaphorical in nature is poetic
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    • 1.Frege's distinction between sense and reference demonstrates that logical and mathematical language operates through determinate, non-figurative relations between signs and referents.
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    • 2.If any language form operates through non-figurative, truth-conditional structures, then not all language is fundamentally poetic in Herder's sense.
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    • 3.Formal and logical languages are genuine instances of language, not mere derivative or deficient modes of expression.
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    • 1.Wittgenstein's later work shows that language use is governed by rule-following practices embedded in forms of life, not primarily by expressive or figurative acts.
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    • 2.A practice governed by public, correctable rules is categorically distinct from poetic expression, which resists reduction to such normative criteria.
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    Herder also anticipated and influenced the Romantics in another important way. One of their most striking and distinctive positions was a certain valorization of literature and art over other areas of culture (such as science, religion, and morality). But Herder had already developed such a position before them. First, from an early period he argued that song was the origin of all language – and consequently also of all thought. Second, in works such as the Treatise on the Origin and especially
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