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    Supports→The Stoic and Peripatetic view that virtue is the end of life is mistaken.

    An end must be intrinsically and universally motivating; virtue fails this criterion since it is pursued only when pleasant consequences are anticipated.

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    • 1.Empirical observation shows people consistently abandon virtuous behavior when consequences become negative, revealing contingent rather than intrinsic motivation.
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    • 2.If virtue were truly intrinsically motivating, cultural variation in moral codes would be inexplicable; universal motivation transcends social conditioning.
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    • 3.Intrinsic ends satisfy desires independent of outcomes; virtue often requires sacrifice, suggesting external incentives (reputation, reward) drive pursuit.
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    • 1.The motivation to act virtuously can be intrinsic (valuing honesty itself) even when virtuous acts produce pleasant consequences; these are not mutually exclusive.
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    • 2.Universal motivation doesn't require identical behavioral expression; diverse cultures pursuing justice reflects shared intrinsic value, not contingent motivation.
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    • 3.Distinguishing intrinsic motivation requires examining agents' actual reasons for action, not merely observable compliance; many pursue virtue without calculating consequences.
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