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    It is not the case that Any adequate justification of punishment must be basically consequentialist.

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    • 1.Punishment expresses deserved censure for wrongdoing, and desert-based responses can be morally obligatory independent of their consequences.
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    • 2.Kant's retributivism holds that failing to punish the guilty wrongs them by denying their status as rational moral agents responsible for their choices.
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    • 3.If some moral obligations arise from respect for persons rather than outcomes, P2's claim that only consequential benefits justify hardship is false.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Consequentialist justifications permit punishing the innocent whenever doing so maximizes net welfare, which violates a near-universal constraint on just punishment.
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    • 2.A justification that licenses clear injustices in principle cannot be an adequate justification of punishment, regardless of its practical track record.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.Punishment is a practice that inflicts, indeed seeks to inflict, significant hardship or burdens.
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    • 2.The only way to justify a practice that deliberately inflicts significant hardship is by showing that it brings consequential benefits sufficiently large to outweigh those burdens.
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