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    It is not the case that Aquinas argued that relations between God and creation are real on creation's side but purely logical on God's side, requiring no change in God.

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    • 1.If God loves creation, this love appears to be a real divine act; calling it 'merely logical' seems to evacuate it of genuine content.
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    • 2.The asymmetry claim fails: the artist-painting analogy involves temporal sequence, but God's eternal knowledge of creation seems to require real relational facts.
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    • 3.A purely logical relation in God suggests creation is somehow less real or less genuinely known by God, which conflicts with divine omniscience.
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    • 1.God's immutability is a core attribute; any real relational change in God would compromise His perfection and timelessness.
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    • 2.Creation-side reality of relations explains God's genuine responsiveness to prayer without requiring metaphysical change in God.
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    • 3.Relations can be asymmetrically real: a painting is really related to its artist, but the artist's being need not change thereby.
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