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    It is not the case that Children's intuitive distinction between conventional and moral demands captures at least part of what it means for a moral demand to be objective.

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    • 1.Children's moral-conventional distinction may reflect culturally transmitted norms rather than perception of mind-independent moral facts.
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    • 2.Cross-cultural psychology (Shweder et al.) shows the moral-conventional distinction is not universally replicated across all cultures.
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    • 3.If the distinction is culturally variable, it tracks social construction rather than objective moral reality.
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    • 1.Perceiving a demand as authority-independent and universal is a phenomenological fact about the perceiver, not evidence of the demand's ontological status.
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    • 2.Mackie's 'argument from queerness' holds that even if we intuit moral demands as objective, no such queer entities need exist to explain those intuitions.
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    • 3.The subjective experience of objectivity is fully explicable by evolutionary or social accounts without positing genuine moral objectivity.
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    • 1.Even young children after a certain age intuitively distinguish conventional demands from moral demands.
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    • 2.Basic moral demands are taken by children to be independent of authority and to apply universally to all persons.
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    • 3.Independence from authority and universality are features associated with objectivity.
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