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    Challenges→God can apply the results of Jesus's atoning death and resurrection to people who have never heard of Jesus or acknowledged his lordship.

    D.A. Carson argues in 'The Gagging of God' that scriptural warrant consistently ties salvific efficacy to proclaimed, received, and confessed Gospel content, not abstract divine application.

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    • 1.Scripture repeatedly emphasizes faith *in* Gospel proclamation: Romans 10:17 'faith comes by hearing' and John 17:20 'those who believe through their word.'
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    • 2.Salvation requires cognitive assent to specific truths. Confessing 'Jesus is Lord' and believing resurrection involves propositional content, not mere mystical experience.
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    • 3.Christ's Great Commission centers on *teaching* 'all things commanded,' implying Gospel content matters definitively for salvation, not as secondary.
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    • 1.Carson's framework struggles with salvation of infants, the severely cognitively disabled, and believers who lack full doctrinal clarity or literacy.
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    • 2.Equating 'proclaimed content' with salvific efficacy potentially excludes Spirit-wrought faith in contexts where Gospel proclamation is historically impossible or suppressed.
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    • 3.Romans 10:9-10 and similar passages may emphasize *confession* as evidence of prior faith, not as the mechanism generating salvific efficacy itself.
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    Abstract divine application(as what Carson argues against)
    A vague or indirect way that God might work spiritually without requiring specific beliefs or confession from a person.
    Confessed Gospel(as one of the elements Carson says is necessary)
    The Christian message that someone openly declares or admits to believing in.
    D.A. Carson(as the author being cited)
    An evangelical Christian scholar and theologian known for writing detailed books about biblical interpretation and Christian doctrine; 'The Gagging of God' is one of his major works.
    Gospel content(as what matters for salvation according to Carson)
    The actual facts and claims of the Christian message—like who Jesus is and what he did—rather than just the general idea of it.
    Proclaimed Gospel(as one of the elements Carson says is necessary)
    The Christian message of Jesus Christ and salvation that is spoken aloud and shared with others.
    Received Gospel(as one of the elements Carson says is necessary)
    The Christian message that someone has actually heard and taken in or accepted.
    Salvific efficacy(as what the argument is about)
    The power or ability of something to actually save a person spiritually or bring them into a right relationship with God.
    Scriptural warrant(as the basis for Carson's argument)
    Evidence or support found directly in the Bible for a particular belief or practice.

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