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    Desert principles that tie desert-bases to socially produ... — Carmelics
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    Desert principles that tie desert-bases to socially productive activity do so because societies value higher standards of living, not because the concept of desert itself requires this.

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    • 1.Contemporary desert principles all share the value of raising the social product.
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    • 2.Under each desert principle, only activity directed at raising the social product serves as a basis for deserving income.
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    • 3.The concept of desert itself does not yield the value of raising the social product.
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    • 1.Desert is an internally structured concept that tracks contribution to shared cooperative schemes, not merely contingent social preferences.
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    • 2.Rawls, Miller, and Feinberg all identify productive contribution as conceptually tied to desert via the logic of reciprocity in cooperative enterprises.
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    • 3.If desert itself tracks reciprocal contribution to joint ventures, then socially productive activity is a desert-base by conceptual necessity, not social contingency.
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    • 1.The claim conflates the content of desert-bases with external justifications, ignoring that desert concepts have internal normative structure.
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    • 2.Aristotle's proportionality principle in distributive justice grounds desert in contribution to the polis, making productive activity conceptually prior to mere social valuation.
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    Desert (in philosophy)(as used in ethics and justice theory)
    What someone deserves or has earned, usually through their actions; in this context, the idea that punishment is deserved as a moral response to committing a wrong.
    Desert principles(as used in ethics)
    Philosophical rules or guidelines that explain when and why people deserve certain rewards, punishments, or treatment.
    Desert-bases(as used in ethics)
    The specific reasons or criteria that determine what someone deserves; for instance, hard work might be a desert-base for earning money.
    Socially productive activity(as used in social philosophy)
    Work or actions that benefit society as a whole or help create things that society values, like innovations, goods, or services.

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    Contemporary desert-principles all share the value of raising the standard of living—collectively, ‘the social product’. Under each principle, only activity directed at raising the social product will serve as a basis for deserving income. The concept of desert itself does not yield this value of raising the social product; it is a value societies hold independently. Hence, desert principles identifying desert-bases tied to socially productive activity (productivity, compensation, and effort all
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    The concept of desert itself does not yield the value of raising the social prod...
    The value of raising the social product is held by societies independently of th...
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