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    A full development of desert-based distributive principle... — Carmelics
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    A full development of desert-based distributive principles requires specification and defense of which activities count as socially productive.

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    • 1.Desert-based distribution depends on identifying which activities are socially productive.
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    • 2.Societies choose raising living standards as the primary value relevant to desert-based distribution.
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    • 3.Not all activities will count as socially productive and hence deserving of remuneration.
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    • 1.Rawls argues that desert-based claims presuppose a just background structure, making social productivity derivative of institutional design, not prior to it.
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    • 2.If the criteria for 'socially productive' are themselves products of institutional choice, desert cannot serve as a pre-institutional basis for distributive principles.
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    • 1.Hayek contends that no central authority possesses the distributed knowledge required to reliably identify which activities produce social value across complex markets.
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    • 2.Desert-based distribution requires precisely the kind of social valuation that dispersed price signals, not philosophical specification, are uniquely equipped to generate.
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    Contemporary desert-principles all share the value of raising the standard of living—collectively, ‘the social product’. Under each principle, only activity directed at raising the social product will serve as a basis for deserving income. The concept of desert itself does not yield this value of raising the social product; it is a value societies hold independently. Hence, desert principles identifying desert-bases tied to socially productive activity (productivity, compensation, and effort all
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