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    Dialectic is an easier and less important subject than rhetoric

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    • 1.Dialectic considers and uses only the syllogism in isolation from its wider argumentative context
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    • 2.The sole aim of dialectic is to teach
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    • 3.The rhetorician uses not only the syllogism but also the enthymeme, epicheireme, and example
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    • 1.Dialectic provides the formal inferential structure that determines whether any argument—rhetorical or otherwise—is actually valid.
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    • 2.A discipline that supplies the necessary conditions for all other argumentative forms cannot be subordinate to those forms.
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    • 3.Rhetoric's persuasive power is contingent on dialectical validity; dialectic's validity is not contingent on rhetorical embellishment.
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    • 1.Aristotle's Prior Analytics establishes syllogistic as the science of demonstrative reasoning, foundational to all disciplines including rhetoric.
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    • 2.Valla conflates difficulty of execution with importance, but a subject's foundational role in grounding knowledge is independent of its performative complexity.
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    After Valla’s attack on what he calls the fundamenta (foundations) of Aristotelian-scholastic metaphysics and natural philosophy, he turns to dialectic in Books II and III of his Repastinatio. For Valla, argumentation should be approached from an oratorical rather than a logical point of view. What counts is whether an argument works, which means whether it convinces one’s adversary or public. The form of the argument is less important. Dialectic is a species of confirmation and refutation; and,
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