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    Dying is wholly a matter of indifference for those who do... — Carmelics
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    Dying is wholly a matter of indifference for those who do not experience it.

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    • 1.Dying is extrinsically good or bad for those who die only if and insofar as it causes them to have painful or pleasant experiences.
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    • 2.Some people do not experience dying, for example because they sleep through it.
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    • 1.The manner of dying can violate or honor a person's ante-mortem values and dignity regardless of whether the dying person is conscious.
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    • 2.Events that bear on a person's interests or narrative integrity can be bad for them even without producing subjective experience, as Feinberg's ante-mortem interest theory establishes.
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    • 1.Dying unconsciously may deprive a person of the opportunity for final reconciliation, completion of projects, or farewell, constituting a deprivation harm in Epicurus's own experiential terms.
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    • 2.The Epicurean argument against the badness of death does not straightforwardly extend to dying, since dying occurs within a life where the subject still exists and has experiential interests at stake.
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    Apparently, then, the argument does not demonstrate that neither being dead nor dying is ever bad for those who die. Nevertheless, unless we find further weaknesses in it, it still seems to support powerful conclusions: being dead is neither good nor bad for those who die, and dying is extrinsically good or bad for them only if and insofar as it causes them to have painful (pleasant) experiences. Dying is wholly a matter of indifference for those who do not experience it, say because they sleep through it.

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