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    It is not the case that Dying is wholly a matter of indifference for those who do not experience it.

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    • 1.The manner of dying can violate or honor a person's ante-mortem values and dignity regardless of whether the dying person is conscious.
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    • 2.Events that bear on a person's interests or narrative integrity can be bad for them even without producing subjective experience, as Feinberg's ante-mortem interest theory establishes.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Dying unconsciously may deprive a person of the opportunity for final reconciliation, completion of projects, or farewell, constituting a deprivation harm in Epicurus's own experiential terms.
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    • 2.The Epicurean argument against the badness of death does not straightforwardly extend to dying, since dying occurs within a life where the subject still exists and has experiential interests at stake.
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    • 1.Dying is extrinsically good or bad for those who die only if and insofar as it causes them to have painful or pleasant experiences.
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    • 2.Some people do not experience dying, for example because they sleep through it.
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