Skip to content
Carmelics
TopicsThinkersChangesContributorsLoading account…

    Carmelics

    A reasoning platform. Break down any belief into clear reasons, explore both sides, and weigh the evidence honestly.

    Navigate

    • Topics
    • Search
    • Recent Changes
    • Contribute
    • How It Works
    • Glossary
    • Thinkers
    • Contributors
    • About
    • Statistics
    • Terms
    • Privacy

    Database

    Statements
    —
    Perspectives
    —
    Topics
    —

    Press ? for keyboard shortcuts

    LoyalLoyalJusticeJustice
    Made withinDC&Austin
    Statements
    321,452
    Perspectives
    108,905
    Topics
    42
    Home/Original/inverse
    See Original
    Inverse View

    It is not the case that Effects arising from natural causes are necessary only when those natural causes are necessary and maintain a fixed order unimpeded by other causes.

    ?Set your confidence on the premises below to see your aggregate.

    Reasons For

    2 perspectives
    Reason for 1 of 2
    ?
    • 1.Al-Ghazali argued in Tahafut al-Falasifa that God can interrupt any natural sequence without contradiction, since no causal connection is logically necessary.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 2.If even a paradigmatically 'fixed' sequence like a solar eclipse remains contingent on continuous divine permission, the claim's condition of being 'unimpeded' can never be verified as permanently satisfied.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 3.Therefore, what the claim calls necessary effects are at best nomologically regular but remain ontologically contingent at every moment of their production.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    Reason for 2 of 2
    ?
    • 1.Hume's regularity theory shows that what we call 'necessary' causal connections are merely observed constant conjunctions, not intrinsic necessities.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 2.If causal necessity is epistemically projected rather than metaphysically real, no natural cause—however unimpeded—produces effects that are genuinely necessary.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    Reasons Against

    1 perspective
    Reason against
    ?
    • 1.Natural causes that maintain a fixed order and cannot be hindered produce necessary effects.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 2.A solar eclipse is an example of a natural cause that maintains a fixed, unimpeded order.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 3.Foreknowledge of necessary effects is itself necessary with respect to the knower.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    Next step

    Based on where you are in your exploration

    Strongest counterpoint
    Explore the most compelling reason on the other side.