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    It is not the case that Either Pierre's doxastic position cannot be as described in §2.6 or London and Londres are different cities (or we must punt).

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    • 1.Kripke's puzzle shows that Pierre's doxastic position generates contradiction even under substitution-resistant belief contexts, without requiring distinct objects.
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    • 2.The puzzle's force derives from rationality norms on belief, not from metaphysical claims about identity, so Church's modal argument conflates epistemic and ontological levels.
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    • 3.A Fregean solution—that 'London' and 'Londres' express distinct senses—dissolves the contradiction without positing distinct cities or denying Pierre's described beliefs.
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    • 1.Russellian accounts of propositional attitudes, as developed by Salmon and Soames, permit an agent to believe and disbelieve a single singular proposition under different guises without contradiction.
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    • 2.If there is no genuine doxastic contradiction in Pierre's position on the Salmon-Soames view, the disjunction 'bad doxastic state OR distinct cities' is a false dichotomy.
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    • 1.Church's argument implies that if Pierre's doxastic position is as described, then London and Londres are distinct objects.
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    • 2.The standard account of identity holds.
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