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    Eleonore Stump and Norman Kretzmann's ET-simultaneity rel... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→In temporal reference frames, God's actions and their effects are nonsimultaneous.

    Eleonore Stump and Norman Kretzmann's ET-simultaneity relation makes eternal and temporal events co-present without requiring temporal ordering.

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    • 1.Divine omniscience requires God to perceive all events simultaneously; ET-simultaneity provides a coherent framework for this without logical contradiction.
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    • 2.Standard temporal ordering creates an asymmetry problem: why would God experience some events before others if God is atemporal? ET-simultaneity resolves this.
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    • 3.The relation preserves human libertarian freedom by avoiding the determinism entailed by simple foreknowledge without requiring temporal succession.
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    • 1.ET-simultaneity is poorly defined: the relation either collapses into standard simultaneity or remains too metaphysically obscure to explain anything.
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    • 2.Preserving libertarian freedom still requires temporal events to be genuinely open; a timeless perspective cannot make contingent facts genuinely contingent.
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    • 3.The framework avoids rather than solves the core problem: explaining how timeless knowledge of future events avoids entailing those events' necessity.
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