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    Epicurus held that death is not bad for the one who dies ... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→It is rational to deplore death more than we deplore our not having always existed.

    Epicurus held that death is not bad for the one who dies because there is no subject remaining to be harmed by the deprivation.

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    • 1.Harm requires a subject experiencing badness; death eliminates the subject, so no experience of harm can occur.
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    • 2.We don't consider it bad for us that we didn't exist before birth, so symmetry suggests posthumous non-existence shouldn't be bad either.
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    • 3.Fear of death is often fear of dying process or leaving loved ones, not of non-existence itself.
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    • 1.Death can harm us by depriving us of goods we would have experienced; deprivation doesn't require present awareness to be real harm.
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    • 2.Asymmetry between birth and death is justified: we can be harmed by events after our existence begins in ways we cannot before it begins.
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    • 3.A shortened life can be worse than a long one even if the person never knows about their lost future, making death itself the harm.
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