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    Epistemic facts are trivially mind-dependent under Berkeleyan idealism.

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    • 1.Under Berkeleyan idealism, anything we know is known because some mental state of affairs obtains.
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    • 2.Berkeleyan idealism denies that there is a mind-independent objective reality.
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    • 3.If there is no mind-independent objective reality, then all truths and epistemic facts are internal to the mind.
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    • 1.Berkeley grounds epistemic norms in God's infinite mind, which is not trivially identical to finite human minds.
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    • 2.A standard grounded in an infinite divine intellect retains objective authority independent of any particular knower's mental states.
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    • 3.Therefore, epistemic facts under Berkeley's system are mind-dependent on God, not trivially mind-dependent in the subjectivist sense implied by the claim.
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    • 1.Berkeley's idealism distinguishes real ideas (coherent, law-governed, God-sustained) from imaginary ones, preserving a robust reality/appearance distinction.
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    • 2.An epistemic standard that tracks God-ordained regularities in the succession of ideas is not 'trivial' but answers to constraints no finite mind controls.
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    • 3.The trivially mind-dependent reading conflates Berkeleyan idealism with Humean or Kantian positions that Berkeley himself explicitly argued against.
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    According to idealism (e.g., of a Berkeleyan sort), anything we know we know because some mental state of affairs obtains, and this is because, for such an idealist, there is no external world; empirical reality is internal to our minds. This view of course implies that truths we might know, and indeed any epistemic facts, will be trivially mind dependent, given that part of what it is to be an idealist is to deny that there is a mind-independent objective reality. Importantly, this kind of heav
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