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    Even a God who exists in time could ground the existence ... — Carmelics
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    Even a God who exists in time could ground the existence of a series of contingent beings with no temporal beginning

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    • 1.We can coherently conceive of a relation of simultaneous causation
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    • 2.Simultaneous causation does not require priority in time
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    • 1.A cause that exists in time is itself subject to temporal becoming, requiring explanation for its own persistence at each moment.
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    • 2.Any temporally located ground of an infinite series must itself occupy a position within or prior to that series, generating a regress.
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    • 1.Simultaneous causation, as Kant argued in the Second Analogy, presupposes a prior causal order that fixes which relata are cause and effect.
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    • 2.A God existing in time cannot ground the asymmetry of simultaneous causation without appeal to a further, non-temporal explanatory principle.
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    Hume’s second objection is that God cannot be the causal explanation of the existence of a series of contingent beings that has no temporal beginning, since any causal relation “implies a priority in time and a beginning of existence” (Hume 1779, Part IV). In reply, it seems quite possible to conceive of a non-temporal causal relation, and thus to conceive of God, from outside of time, causing a series of contingent beings that has always existed. Indeed, this view is common in the theological t
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