Skip to content
Carmelics
TopicsThinkersChangesContributorsLoading account…

    Carmelics

    A reasoning platform. Break down any belief into clear reasons, explore both sides, and weigh the evidence honestly.

    Navigate

    • Topics
    • Search
    • Recent Changes
    • Contribute
    • How It Works
    • Glossary
    • Thinkers
    • Contributors
    • About
    • Statistics
    • Terms
    • Privacy

    Database

    Statements
    —
    Perspectives
    —
    Topics
    —

    Press ? for keyboard shortcuts

    LoyalLoyalJusticeJustice
    Made withinDC&Austin
    Statements
    321,452
    Perspectives
    108,905
    Topics
    42
    Even if God cannot exist without omniscience, it does not... — Carmelics
    Home
    HistoryEditSee Inverse

    Part of a larger discussion

    Challenges→Essential property instances of God are not more dependent on God than God is on them.

    Even if God cannot exist without omniscience, it does not follow that omniscience is not ontologically posterior to God in the order of real definition.

    ?Rate how convincing each reason is below to see the overall strength.
    1 reason for
    1 reason against

    Reasons For

    1 perspective
    Reason for
    ?
    • 1.Necessity of a property does not determine its metaphysical priority in a thing's essence or real definition.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 2.God's aseity (self-sufficiency) can ground divine existence logically prior to omniscience as an attribute.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 3.Real definition concerns what a thing fundamentally is, distinct from modal facts about what it requires.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    Reasons Against

    1 perspective
    Reason against
    ?
    • 1.If omniscience is essential to God and constitutive of his perfection, it cannot be posterior in real definition.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 2.Ontological posteriority typically tracks essential dependence; God essentially depends on omniscience for divinity.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 3.Distinguishing necessity from real definition here invokes an obscure metaphysical distinction without clear justification.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    Sign in or register to share your perspective on this statement.

    Next step

    Based on where you are in your exploration

    Strongest counterpoint
    Explore the most compelling reason on the other side.

    Connections

    1 topic

    Divine Attributes1 linked

    Related

    Distinguishing necessity from real definition here invokes an obscure metaphysic...Essential property instances of God are not more dependent on God than God is on...God's aseity (self-sufficiency) can ground divine existence logically prior to o...If omniscience is essential to God and constitutive of his perfection, it cannot...
    +3 moreShow less
    Necessity of a property does not determine its metaphysical priority in a thing'...Ontological posteriority typically tracks essential dependence; God essentially ...Real definition concerns what a thing fundamentally is, distinct from modal fact...

    Details

    Type
    claim
    Perspectives
    2 (1 for, 1 against)
    Edits
    1 edit