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    It is not the case that Facts about Ernie's creation by a goddess with foreknowledge and intentions about his future are not relevant differences between Ernie and Bert.

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    • 1.Sourcehood compatibilists (Fischer, Wolf) hold that causal history matters morally: origins partly constitute whether an agent is the genuine source of action.
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    • 2.A goddess's intentional design of Ernie's character to produce specific outcomes makes her, not Ernie, the proximate source of his deliberative states.
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    • 3.If Ernie's deliberative character was crafted with foreknowledge to guarantee a specific act, he lacks the kind of self-authorship required for moral responsibility, unlike Bert.
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    • 1.Derk Pereboom's 'four-case argument' itself demonstrates that manipulation cases succeed precisely because the manipulator's intentions undermine the agent's reasons-responsiveness as self-governed.
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    • 2.Divine foreknowledge paired with intentional creation constitutes a stronger manipulation condition than mere causal determinism, since it involves a designing agent with propositional attitudes about outcomes.
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    • 3.The asymmetry between Ernie and Bert is therefore normatively relevant: Bert's history lacks an intentional designer whose purposes colonize his practical identity.
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    • 1.The Manipulation argument's second premise holds that there is no relevant difference between Ernie and Bert.
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    • 2.Ernie's being created by a goddess with foreknowledge and intentions about his future are historical facts about his creation that differ from Bert's history.
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    • 3.For the second premise to hold, these historical facts must not count as relevant differences, even if they affect intuitions.
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