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    It is not the case that Free choice of damnation (Objection 1) determines the destination of punishment but cannot by itself transform a finite sin into a crime deserving infinite suffering intensity without limit.

    ?Set your confidence on the premises below to see your aggregate.

    Reasons For

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    Reason for
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    • 1.The offense's severity depends on the dignity of the one offended; sinning against an infinite being could constitute infinite transgression.
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    • 2.Rejecting God's infinite goodness and grace through free choice might itself constitute an infinite harm, justifying infinite consequence.
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    • 3.Justice doesn't require arithmetic proportionality; a sovereign authority may justly set penalties for rebellion at any level deemed appropriate.
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    Reasons Against

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    Reason against
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    • 1.Finite creatures performing finite acts within finite time cannot generate infinite culpability regardless of their will's orientation.
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    • 2.Proportionality between transgression and punishment is a basic requirement of justice; infinite punishment for finite sin violates this.
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    • 3.Free choice explains why someone deserves *some* punishment, but magnitude of desert must scale with the actual harm or offense committed.
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