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    Gettier cases show that reliably-produced true belief sti... — Carmelics
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    Supports→Knowledge should not be expected to require reliability

    Gettier cases show that reliably-produced true belief still fails to constitute knowledge, undermining reliability as a necessary condition.

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    • 1.In Gettier cases, belief-formation mechanisms work reliably yet agents lack knowledge, proving reliability alone is insufficient.
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    • 2.A necessary condition must hold in all cases where the definiendum holds. Since knowledge exists without reliability, it's not necessary.
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    • 3.The Smith-Jones case shows reliably-formed true belief about 'the person with 10 coins' fails as knowledge due to epistemic luck.
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    • 1.Gettier cases involve defeated justification, not failed reliability—reliable processes don't guarantee justified belief under defeaters.
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    • 2.Reliabilism can accommodate Gettier cases by refining what counts as the relevant reliable process, avoiding the need for wholesale rejection.
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    • 3.Showing reliability isn't sufficient doesn't entail it isn't necessary; knowledge might require both reliability and additional conditions.
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    knowledge(Distinguished from mere true belief, which may be the product of indoctrination and need not exercise deliberative capacities.)
    Justified true belief — true belief that has been arrived at through the exercise of deliberative capacities, including comparison of and deliberation among alternatives.

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    The Smith-Jones case shows reliably-formed true belief about 'the person with 10...