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    God cannot be a deceiver. — Carmelics
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    God cannot be a deceiver.

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    • 1.God is an infinite and perfect being.
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    • 2.All fraud and deception depend on some defect.
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    • 3.A perfect being has no defects.
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    • 1.Some theological traditions, including Calvinist voluntarism and Ockham's divine command theory, hold that God's will is prior to and unconstrained by moral categories like honesty.
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    • 2.If God's omnipotence entails that no external standard binds divine action, then 'deception constitutes a defect' is a constraint on God that undermines omnipotence.
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    • 3.Therefore, declaring deception impossible for God imposes a logical limitation on divine freedom that conflicts with robust accounts of divine omnipotence.
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    • 1.Descartes' own evil demon hypothesis in Meditation I demonstrates that a maximally powerful being capable of systematic deception is at least conceivable without logical contradiction.
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    • 2.If the non-deceiving nature of God must be established to escape radical doubt, then 'God cannot deceive' is doing epistemic work that cannot itself be grounded without circularity, as Arnauld's Cartesian Circle objection shows.
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    • 3.An argument whose conclusion is required to validate its own premises provides no independent justification for the claim that God cannot be a deceiver.
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    In the course of the Third Meditation, Descartes constructs an argument for the existence of God that starts from the fact that he has an idea of an infinite being. The argument is intricate. It invokes the metaphysical principle that “there must be at least as much reality in the efficient and total cause as in the effect of that cause” (7:40). This principle is put forward as something that is “manifest by the natural light” (7:40), which itself is described as a cognitive power whose resu
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    Some theological traditions, including Calvinist voluntarism and Ockham's divine...
    Therefore, declaring deception impossible for God imposes a logical limitation o...
    Whatever we clearly and distinctly perceive is true.
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