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    It is not the case that God cannot change physically (God is physically immutable).

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    • 1.The Incarnation, central to Christian theology, entails God the Son taking on a physical body in the person of Jesus Christ.
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    • 2.A being that genuinely possesses a physical body is capable of physical change, as bodies are by nature subject to alteration.
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    • 3.Therefore, the Incarnation commits orthodox Christianity to the possibility of physical change in at least one divine person.
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    • 1.Process theologians like Whitehead and Hartshorne argue God has a 'consequent nature' that is genuinely affected by and responsive to the physical world.
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    • 2.If God's consequent nature is constitutively shaped by physical events in the world, God undergoes real relational change tied to physical states of affairs.
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    • 3.Physical immutability cannot be coherently maintained by any theology that grounds divine responsiveness in God's actual relation to embodied, physical creatures.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.For Western theists, God is by nature a spirit, without body.
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    • 2.A being without body cannot change physically.
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