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    God does not precede times by being located in time. — Carmelics
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    God does not precede times by being located in time.

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    • 1.If God preceded times by being in time, God would not precede all times.
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    • 2.But God does precede all times.
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    • 1.An omnipotent God could exist in an infinite past time that is unbounded, thereby preceding all finite temporal intervals.
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    • 2.Preceding 'all times' is compatible with temporal existence if God's temporal existence has no beginning.
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    • 3.Newton and Samuel Clarke held that God's eternity is an infinite temporal duration, not atemporal existence, grounding divine precedence in endless time.
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    • 1.Swinburne argues that a timeless God cannot act, respond, or know tensed facts, making atemporality incoherent for a personal God.
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    • 2.If divine atemporality is incoherent, then God's precedence over time must be explained through temporal priority rather than non-temporal transcendence.
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    SEP: eternity
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    It is not in time that you precede times. Otherwise you would not precede all times. In the sublimity of an eternity which is always in the present, you are before all things past and transcend all things future, because they are still to come. (Augustine, Confessions, XI. xiii (16)).
    Extraction notes

    Validity: The argument is a valid modus tollens (if P then Q; not Q; therefore not P) and is directly present in the source passage's opening lines: "It is not in time that you precede times. Otherwise you would not precede all times."

    Confidence: Clear reductio argument explicitly stated in the text.

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