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    God is not in time. — Carmelics
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    God is not in time.

    Afterlife & Death
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    • 1.God is immaterial.
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    • 2.If God is immaterial, then God is not in space.
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    • 3.According to relativity theory, anything that is in time is also in space.
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    • 1.Relativity theory describes the structure of the physical universe, but does not exhaust the possible modes of temporal existence for non-physical entities.
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    • 2.A being capable of knowing tensed facts (e.g., 'the battle is happening now') must stand in some temporal relation to those facts.
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    • 3.God, on orthodox theism, knows all tensed facts, so God must be temporally located in some sense.
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    • 1.Divine action in history—creation, incarnation, providential response to prayer—entails a before-and-after structure incompatible with strict timelessness.
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    • 2.An entity that acts such that its actions have temporal effects must itself be temporally ordered relative to those effects, as argued by Nicholas Wolterstorff in 'God Everlasting'.
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    A being capable of knowing tensed facts (e.g., 'the battle is happening now') mu...According to relativity theory, anything that is in time is also in space.An entity that acts such that its actions have temporal effects must itself be t...Divine action in history—creation, incarnation, providential response to prayer—...
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    God is immaterial.God, on orthodox theism, knows all tensed facts, so God must be temporally locat...If God is immaterial, then God is not in space.Relativity theory describes the structure of the physical universe, but does not...Therefore, if God is not in space, God is not in time.

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    God is in time.93%Therefore, if God is not in space, God is not in time.86%God does not precede times by being located in time.83%No time existed that was not brought into being by God.81%

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    SEP: eternity

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