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    It is not the case that God lacks at least one of the traditional divine attributes (omniscience, omnipotence, or omnibenevolence), and therefore the God of traditional theism does not exist.

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    Reasons For

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    • 1.Libertarian free will requires that God permit creatures to choose evil, making divine non-intervention a logical necessity, not an attribute deficiency.
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    • 2.Alvin Plantinga's Free Will Defense shows that an omnipotent God cannot both create free creatures and guarantee they always choose good, as this is a logical contradiction.
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    • 3.Therefore, the coexistence of omnipotence and creaturely freedom entails the possibility of evil without impugning any divine attribute.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.John Hick's Irenaean theodicy holds that a world without suffering cannot achieve the soul-making necessary for moral and spiritual development toward the imago Dei.
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    • 2.Omnibenevolence is not equivalent to maximizing immediate comfort, but to willing the highest good, which may require permitting suffering as a necessary developmental condition.
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    • 3.If the elimination of evil would prevent a greater good constitutive of human perfection, an omnibenevolent God has positive reason to permit it, dissolving the alleged contradiction.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.An omniscient God would have knowledge of the evil in the world.
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    • 2.An omnibenevolent God would desire to halt or prevent evil.
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    • 3.An omnipotent God would be able to halt or prevent evil.
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