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    God must be both Being (esse) and a being (id quod est). — Carmelics
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    God must be both Being (esse) and a being (id quod est).

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    • 1.If God were Being but not a being, he could not enter into causal relations, could not create the world, intervene in its operations, or interact with human persons.
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    • 2.Such a God would be 'religiously pernicious'.
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    • 3.If Being is other than every being, then Being is not — one could not sensibly maintain that God exists.
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    • 1.Boethius's distinction in De Hebdomadibus between esse and id quod est applies to creatures, not to God, who transcends categorical predication entirely.
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    • 2.Applying the esse/id quod est distinction to God illegitimately imports a creaturely logical grammar into divine ontology, generating a false dilemma.
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    • 3.Pseudo-Dionysius and the apophatic tradition hold that God surpasses both Being and beings, making the conjunction of both terms a category error rather than a solution.
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    • 1.Heidegger's critique of onto-theology argues that identifying God with Being itself conflates the ground of beings with a supreme being, collapsing theology into metaphysics.
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    • 2.If God is genuinely identical with esse subsistens as Aquinas claims, then the requirement that God also be 'a being' reintroduces the very composition divine simplicity was invoked to eliminate.
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