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    It is not the case that God offers his grace to all human beings, though many freely reject it and seal their fate in hell.

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    Reasons For

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    • 1.If God possesses perfect foreknowledge, then God creates persons he knows with certainty will reject grace and suffer eternal torment.
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    • 2.Creating a person one knows with certainty will freely choose irremediable damnation is not compatible with genuine universal salvific will.
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    • 3.Therefore, the doctrine of universal grace offer is internally inconsistent with classical divine omniscience.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Molinism and Calvinist traditions both argue that the conditions under which free choices occur are themselves divinely ordained.
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    • 2.If God controls the circumstances and counterfactuals of creaturely freedom, then the distinction between divine election and free rejection collapses.
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    • 3.Arminius himself acknowledged that prevenient grace enabling free response must be resistible, yet resistibility requires grace be unequally distributed in effect.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.It is unjust for God to do for some what God refuses to do for others.
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    • 2.The elect have done nothing to deserve their special treatment.
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