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    It is not the case that God's grace is irresistible in the end and will eventually reconcile all sinners to God.

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    Reasons For

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    • 1.Libertarian free will, defended by Kant and Plantinga, requires that genuine choices be revisable and not predetermined by any external force, including divine grace.
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    • 2.A grace that is 'irresistible in the end' is logically indistinguishable from compulsion, collapsing the moral distinction between a redeemed will and a coerced one.
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    • 3.Reconciliation achieved through irresistible grace cannot constitute the morally significant relationship God ostensibly seeks, as love or contrition produced by necessity lacks authentic moral worth.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Dostoevsky's Ivan Karamazov and existentialist thinkers like Sartre establish that a self constituted through radical self-definition can coherently and permanently refuse external reconciliation as a condition of its own integrity.
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    • 2.If the self's identity is partly constituted by its refusals, then the annihilation of those refusals through divine reconciliation would destroy rather than redeem the very subject God aims to save.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.God's judgment of sin is essentially a matter of permitting sinners to experience the very condition of separation they have confusedly chosen for themselves.
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    • 2.Divine judgment, however harsh it may seem, is itself an expression of divine mercy.
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    • 3.If God allows a sinner to live without even an implicit experience of the divine nature, the resulting horror will shatter any illusion that some good is achievable apart from God.
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