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    God's grace is irresistible in the end and will eventuall... — Carmelics
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    God's grace is irresistible in the end and will eventually reconcile all sinners to God.

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    • 1.God's judgment of sin is essentially a matter of permitting sinners to experience the very condition of separation they have confusedly chosen for themselves.
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    • 2.Divine judgment, however harsh it may seem, is itself an expression of divine mercy.
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    • 3.If God allows a sinner to live without even an implicit experience of the divine nature, the resulting horror will shatter any illusion that some good is achievable apart from God.
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    • 1.Libertarian free will, defended by Kant and Plantinga, requires that genuine choices be revisable and not predetermined by any external force, including divine grace.
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    • 2.A grace that is 'irresistible in the end' is logically indistinguishable from compulsion, collapsing the moral distinction between a redeemed will and a coerced one.
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    • 3.Reconciliation achieved through irresistible grace cannot constitute the morally significant relationship God ostensibly seeks, as love or contrition produced by necessity lacks authentic moral worth.
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    • 1.Dostoevsky's Ivan Karamazov and existentialist thinkers like Sartre establish that a self constituted through radical self-definition can coherently and permanently refuse external reconciliation as a condition of its own integrity.
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    • 2.If the self's identity is partly constituted by its refusals, then the annihilation of those refusals through divine reconciliation would destroy rather than redeem the very subject God aims to save.
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    However one might answer such a question, the Christian universalist’s understanding of the nature and scope of God’s irresistible grace is very different from the Augustinian understanding of it. For Christian universalists not only reject the Augustinian idea that God’s irresistible grace extends to a limited elect only; they also hold that God’s judgment of sin is essentially a matter of permitting sinners to experience the very condition of separation they have confusedly chosen for themselves. Many Christian universalists are thus fond of quoting St. Paul’s remark that “God has bound ever...

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