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    It is not the case that God's temporal experience, while involving succession, is very much unlike ordinary temporal experience.

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    Reasons For

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    Reason for 1 of 2
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    • 1.Omniscience of future events requires that God's knowledge updates or is indexed to temporal positions, implying genuinely sequential cognitive states.
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    • 2.If God's knowledge of 'it is now raining' differs from 'it was raining yesterday,' God undergoes real epistemic change structurally identical to ordinary temporal experience.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Aquinas and Boethius ground divine atemporality in simplicity doctrine, but open theists like Swinburne argue a God who acts in history must experience a genuine 'before' and 'after.'
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    • 2.If divine temporal experience were categorically unlike ordinary succession, God could not be a personal agent responding to prayers or historical events in any coherent sense.
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    Reasons Against

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    • God is omniscient, so God forgets no part of the past and already knows all about the future.
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