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    It is not the case that Good and evil do not pertain to the second and third species of quality (disposition and passion/movement)

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    • 1.Aristotle himself in the Nicomachean Ethics treats passions (pathē) as subject to moral evaluation when they occur in excess or deficiency.
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    • 2.If passions like anger or fear admit of virtuous and vicious expression, they bear directly on good and evil regardless of their transitory character.
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    • 3.The ease or difficulty with which one experiences passions constitutes the very subject matter of virtue and vice for Aristotle, linking species two and three to moral quality.
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    • 1.Stoic moral psychology, influential in later Aristotelian commentary, treats passions (pathē) as themselves the primary locus of moral evaluation, not merely instruments toward ends.
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    • 2.If passions are constitutively good or evil rather than instrumentally so, the premise that good and evil require reference to an end is itself contestable within the broader ancient tradition.
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    • 1.The second and third species of quality concern whether actions or passions are done with ease or difficulty, and whether they are transitory or lasting
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    • 2.Good and evil are said in respect of an end
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    • 3.Movements and passions do not have the aspect of an end
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