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    It is not the case that Happiness is the only ultimately desirable thing

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    • 1.G.E. Moore's open question argument shows 'good' cannot be analytically reduced to any natural property, including happiness-producing capacity.
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    • 2.If 'desirable' means 'ought to be desired' rather than 'is desired', Mill's inference from psychological fact to normative conclusion commits a naturalistic fallacy.
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    • 3.Knowledge, friendship, and achievement retain their value even in scenarios where they produce no net increase in subjective happiness, as Nozick's experience machine demonstrates.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Kant's Formula of Humanity establishes that rational persons possess dignity as ends in themselves, a worth incommensurable with and irreducible to happiness.
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    • 2.If persons have unconditional worth independent of happiness, then respecting persons is ultimately desirable for reasons entirely distinct from any contribution to happiness.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.Whatever is desired is evidence of what is desirable
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    • 2.Some things are desired merely as means to happiness, and means are not ultimately desirable in themselves
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    • 3.Other things, such as virtue, are desired for their own sake but only because they have become part of the individual's happiness
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