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    HP2 will justify more intervention than HP1. — Carmelics
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    HP2 will justify more intervention than HP1.

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    • 1.HP1 restricts justification for intervention to cases where the target herself causes harm to others.
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    • 2.HP2 permits intervention whenever harm to others can be prevented, regardless of the cause.
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    • 1.HP2's scope is constrained by proportionality and subsidiarity norms that track HP1's agent-relative harm threshold in practice.
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    • 2.Mill himself ties harm prevention to causal proximity, making HP2's broader reach functionally equivalent to HP1 in most concrete cases.
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    • 1.Joel Feinberg's harm principle taxonomy shows that 'preventing harm' and 'harm caused by the target' converge when harm is defined as wrongful setback to interests.
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    • 2.Under a wrongful setback account, HP2 licenses intervention only where the target bears some contributory moral responsibility, collapsing the supposed asymmetry with HP1.
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    Because every case of preventing one person from harming another is a case of harm prevention, but not vice versa, HP1 is narrower than HP2. Indeed, HP1 is a proper part of HP2. Whereas HP1 justifies intervention only when the target herself would be the cause of harm to others, HP2 would justify intervention to prevent harm to others, whether that harm would be caused by the target or in some other way. Clearly, HP2 will justify more intervention than HP1. As we have seen, it is hard to justify
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