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    It is not the case that HP2 will justify more intervention than HP1.

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    • 1.HP2's scope is constrained by proportionality and subsidiarity norms that track HP1's agent-relative harm threshold in practice.
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    • 2.Mill himself ties harm prevention to causal proximity, making HP2's broader reach functionally equivalent to HP1 in most concrete cases.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Joel Feinberg's harm principle taxonomy shows that 'preventing harm' and 'harm caused by the target' converge when harm is defined as wrongful setback to interests.
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    • 2.Under a wrongful setback account, HP2 licenses intervention only where the target bears some contributory moral responsibility, collapsing the supposed asymmetry with HP1.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.HP1 restricts justification for intervention to cases where the target herself causes harm to others.
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    • 2.HP2 permits intervention whenever harm to others can be prevented, regardless of the cause.
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